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Remington 700 ADL vs Savage Model 11?

DeerThug
DeerThug

I have finally come down to 2 rifles that I'm trying to decide which to get in.300 Win Mag. The Savage has a Nikon Scope and Accu - Trigger, and the 700 is has no optics (I'll put a Redfield Revenge on it). Either will do the job, but I want to know which one YOU think is better! I'm going to use the rifle for long range deer hunting and maybe a moose hunt on down the road.

338 edge
338 edge

I like the Savage. Several on here don't like the accutrigger but i love mine. I have a Nikon on my savage and it is my favorite gun. The 700 is a good gun but for my money I go savage.

august
august

Savage, all the way. Ever since Remington refused to fix known problems with the Remington 770, I've disliked Remington. It bothers me that the company knows that there are malfunctioning guns out there, but they don't care enough to offer to repair these guns.

So yeah, Savage. Of course, I've never once seen a need for a.300 Winchester Magnum, and moose hunting "down the road" isn't a smart criterion. "Long range deer hunting… " Don't you mean "long range target practice on live animals?" Hunting beyond 300 yards regularly isn't really hunting, in my opinion. A.30-06 Springfield will take down deer at 300 yards and beyond, and is much less expensive to feed than a.300 Win Mag.

So for what it's worth, I'd suggest you go for a.30-06 Springfield, and if you find you NEED a.300 Win Mag later for moose, buy one then. Or, since moose are such large animals, look into a.338 Win Mag.

Quinn
Quinn

Definitely, the Savage, but not because of the scope that comes with the Savage which is okay and not great. IMO the Savage Model 11 is a very good quality for the price, and the Accu-trigger is icing on the cake. To adjust the trigger on the Rem 700, you will have to pay a gunsmith a couple of hundred everytime you want it adjusted. With the Accu-trigger, you make the adjustment to any setting you like and you just saved your money, so in the end you are actually save much more money with the Model 11.

falconry2
falconry2

Currently not a fan of Remington for many of the same reasons August has;I have little respect for a company that foists junk on the general public. The 700 ADL is a respectable value in a rifle, and I rarely recommend anything above an ADL for average shooters since they can shoot as well as an upgrade BDL or other model. The Savage 10/110 series is a good rifle, not something I would personally own but I won't dissuade anyone from getting one. They seem to shoot well, have a strong following and many like the Accu-Trigger;of the 2 I would get the Savage. Nikon makes good glass, but I'm not a fan of BDC scopes for game hunting, the Niko-PLex set at a 200 yard ZERO would be my choice. As for rifles I like, I prefer the Tikka T-3, Browning A-Bolt, and while I don't need one the Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 is a great value currently.
As for cartridge, having both a 30-06 and 300 WSM (equal to a WM) I prefer the 30-06 for pure shooting pleasure and efficacy;while the 300 WSM or WM will put a 165 grain bullet out there at 3000+ FPS it isn't hitting with that much more USABLE force and range extension would be minimal for an average shooter using factory ammo and not getting sub-MOA accuracy every shot. There's a difference between hunting and long range shooting as August (and Craig Boddington) attest to. I've been close enough to elk to touch them as they go by, and almost that close to moose. What really matters is bullet terminal performance, so using the right bullets are important. Thousands of moose have been taken in Scandinavian countries with 6.5 x 55 Swede and 7mm Mauser, so a huge cartridge isn't going to make up for poor shot placement and poor bullet performance. I personally use Barnes and Nosler bullets, but there are plenty of wonderful options out there for deer, elk, bear, moose in a spectrum of designs and performance parameters that make more of a difference than if you used 30-06 or 300 WM. With 25 pounds or recoil in the Mag compared to 20 pounds in 30-06, I would pick the "aught six" every time, but since my 300 was a gift and my son is using the 30-06 now I don't mind it as much.

Andy
Andy

Like the others I don't like what Remington did either. However I still think the older Model 700's are really good rifles. The Savage with the Accutrigger is a very good gun also. I think it boils down to which one is more appealing to you when you hold it and work the action. You can't go wrong with either in my opinion.