Persuade to get the 7d?

So I asked my dad and he said he was expecting me to pick out a camera in the $1000 range. The 7d is on sale $500 and its about $1300. Although I've never played with the camera, I do know most of the features, how tos, and just about everything you need to know for an enthusiast. However, We discussed that the 7d is like a pro camera, but people say its a high mid level camera and could be viewed as beginner pro (if that makes sense).

We're looking at other cameras and particularly canon since my sister has a t3i and the lens are interchangeable. I don't want to get the same one so the only option is something below that which won't happen or the t5i. BUT, te t5i is about $1000 at best buy. $300 more and we could get a pro like camera the 7d. The 70d is another option but about the same price as the ongoing sale for the 7d so why not get something better for the same price?

I really do not want to get the t5i and if he lets me get the 70d, why can't i spend a bit more for the 7d?

How can I get him to compromise for the 7d? I suggested to put my money into it and still he says its expensive for me.

Its my 16th birthday and instead of a car I asked for a better camera than something entry level like nikon 3200. I really do not want to miss this sale opportunity if he does decide yes but then realize its $1800 when we couldve gotten it for $1300…

You realize you don't NEED a better camera than the Nikon D3200? You're 16, you haven't had time to master the D3200! The Nikon can do anything the Canon can do!
You're throwing money away. You'd be better off buying something to add with the Nikon you already have.
A new flash, a tripod. More lens, 50mm 1.8, 35mm 1.8, 55-200mm VR…

I'm at a loss with this question… I actually agree with both letmepicyou and Vinegar Taster… While at the same time I can see your side…

I've been using cameras for over 40 years and haven't ever used what you would describe a professional camera… I'm talking about the top of the range models with all the bells and whistles (top specs)… Don't get too sucked in by the marketing of cameras… A pro level camera won't get you better images… It offers a better specification and extra features, functions and performance to help you get great images easier… And that's what makes it worthwhile for pros to make that extra investment… If you know how to use your camera confidently you can get similar results with a less expensive camera.

So i'm really on your dads side here… If you need that extra performance then yes I might swing your way… You aren't a pro though… I don't need the extra options pro equipment offers and I've been shooting as an enthusiast for 40 years… I use a D5100, D7000 (it's only a month or two old) and a D7100… And each of them are great at what they do… I couldn't ask for any more than what my cameras give me… And to be honest right now I wouldn't need anything more… At 16 I doubt you do too.

Personally, if I was your dad and offered to buy you a $1000 camera and you whined about wanting the $1300 camera, you wouldn't get squat. It's called being an ungrateful brat. Hardly a personality trait to feel pride in. If you want to be a grown up with a grown up camera, then get a grown up job and fork over the extra $300 yourself and consider yourself lucky to have a father like you have.

Do you not have a camera yet? Then you'll get pretty much the same quality out of any model due to your inexperience. Amateur shooters with pro cameras will generally shoot amateur shots. The extra features on the 7D are features you simply do not need as a beginner. It's like asking for the car with a quad cam supercharger and paddle shifters when you don't yet know how to drive.

Sticking with Canon is a good idea if your sister is willing to share or pass down lenses to you. The T5i and 70D are both newer models than the five-year-old 7D. Even if you do still want the 7D, the body alone (assuming sis has a decent starter lens to lend you) can be found for under $1k.

If you do have that Nikon D3200, you're much better off learning how to use it properly. Here's a comparison of the 7D and D3200: http://snapsort.com/...ikon-D3200
About the only significant features the 7D has are weather sealing and faster burst shooting rate. Chances are that you don't need to shoot in rain to keep your clients happy. The D3200 is a very capable camera despite being an entry-level model.

I have seen the 7D bundled with old version 18-135mm IS lens for $1300. I doubt that the price is going to go up. The 7D is an aging body, and so is the old model 18-135mm lens.
A 70D with 18-135mm STM would be a better buy.

B&H has it for $1100. Maybe he'll be impressed with your shopping acumen.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...gital.html